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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well written/detailed description about how judo works as a martial art. You make a lot of good points on how it has some holes in its teachings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well written/detailed description about how judo works as a martial art. You make a lot of good points on how it has some holes in its teachings</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
		<link>http://www.martialwhat.com/my-thoughts-about-judo/comment-page-1/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>judo is a good sport</description>
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		<title>By: massimo</title>
		<link>http://www.martialwhat.com/my-thoughts-about-judo/comment-page-1/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>massimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim: Thank you for your comment that contains very useful concepts. First of all I would like to point out that my post’s title is “My Thoughts about Judo” and obviously it reflects what is my experience in practicing the martial art: otherwise I could have called it, arrogantly, “the truth about Judo”.  I will therefore dispute some of your statements because my point of view and perspective is different.  Perhaps your definition of a decent Judoka is different from mine but I would expect that 2-3 years should be enough to have an idea of what an art is and how it applies. Judo instils great grappling skills, nearly 30 years after I stopped training it I still feel comfortable practicing it.  In any case my simple points about Judo weaknesses are still the following: lack of training against strikes – if an opponent strikes first either punching or kicking the average Judo practitioner will struggle to block that attack; if the first attack lands well the fight might be over and have no time or energy for retaliation.  Judo relies in some measure on body mass – a 50 Kg practitioner will have little or chance against an 80 or 100 Kg one.  Judo doesn’t apply to multiple opponents – while you grab and take care of one opponent the other(s) can simply surround you and attack you from different angles and with a variety of strikes.  Last but not least Judo’s training doesn’t even contemplate the possibility of an opponent striking you while grappling as it happens in MMA fights and how it would likely happen in the street.

A little example of what I am saying, going back to self defence, is given by one of my students: I am aware to be statistically poor being it a sample of one but I like to mention it anyway.   A.M. is a 5’7” (170cm) tall, 65Kg, 37 years old male, who was attacked by 3 large guys, in their early twenties and all over 6’ (180cm) tall: there was no reason for the attack if not the simply “let’s have a go at a smaller guy”.  Relying on his striking skills he shove one away, punch another one to the throat and another one to the nose, breaking it.  The attackers run away. I am assuming a judoka would have been beaten up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim: Thank you for your comment that contains very useful concepts. First of all I would like to point out that my post’s title is “My Thoughts about Judo” and obviously it reflects what is my experience in practicing the martial art: otherwise I could have called it, arrogantly, “the truth about Judo”.  I will therefore dispute some of your statements because my point of view and perspective is different.  Perhaps your definition of a decent Judoka is different from mine but I would expect that 2-3 years should be enough to have an idea of what an art is and how it applies. Judo instils great grappling skills, nearly 30 years after I stopped training it I still feel comfortable practicing it.  In any case my simple points about Judo weaknesses are still the following: lack of training against strikes – if an opponent strikes first either punching or kicking the average Judo practitioner will struggle to block that attack; if the first attack lands well the fight might be over and have no time or energy for retaliation.  Judo relies in some measure on body mass – a 50 Kg practitioner will have little or chance against an 80 or 100 Kg one.  Judo doesn’t apply to multiple opponents – while you grab and take care of one opponent the other(s) can simply surround you and attack you from different angles and with a variety of strikes.  Last but not least Judo’s training doesn’t even contemplate the possibility of an opponent striking you while grappling as it happens in MMA fights and how it would likely happen in the street.</p>
<p>A little example of what I am saying, going back to self defence, is given by one of my students: I am aware to be statistically poor being it a sample of one but I like to mention it anyway.   A.M. is a 5’7” (170cm) tall, 65Kg, 37 years old male, who was attacked by 3 large guys, in their early twenties and all over 6’ (180cm) tall: there was no reason for the attack if not the simply “let’s have a go at a smaller guy”.  Relying on his striking skills he shove one away, punch another one to the throat and another one to the nose, breaking it.  The attackers run away. I am assuming a judoka would have been beaten up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While pure competition-style Judo does seem to make Judo a pretty limited style, any decent Judoka has gained a solid grappling base that makes for an excellent &quot;self-defense&quot; style (I put self-defense in quotations because the notion of training a martial art solely for self-defense is silly; if you&#039;re that worried, save yourself the time and money and just buy a gun...)

It seems like you don&#039;t account for the Judoka&#039;s ability to do things differently outside of a pure Judo competition or training environment. Sure, most of the throwing techniques rely heavily on the Gi, but anybody with a solid base in Judo can apply these techniques with modified grips for a no-gi environment; Judoka don&#039;t have a hard time transitioning into wrestling. Furthermore, many Judo throws can be modified to some degree to be more dangerous (dropping an opponent on their head instead of the back, for example). I&#039;d also like to point out that, in light of you mentioning &quot;the street&quot;, few things are more dangerous than being forcibly thrown onto concrete.

Finally, the ground aspect of Judo, which is very similar to basic Brazillian Jiu Jitsu (the latter having been developed largely from the former), entails choking and joint-lock techniques. These are fight-enders. Somebody cannot continue to competently attack you after you dislocate their shoulder, snap their elbow, or especially after you choke them unconscious =).

While it is true that Judo is a grappling-only style, I would argue that the low cost, high availability, and full-contact training environment of Judo make it one of the best martial arts to train for the hypothetical self-defense situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While pure competition-style Judo does seem to make Judo a pretty limited style, any decent Judoka has gained a solid grappling base that makes for an excellent &#8220;self-defense&#8221; style (I put self-defense in quotations because the notion of training a martial art solely for self-defense is silly; if you&#8217;re that worried, save yourself the time and money and just buy a gun&#8230;)</p>
<p>It seems like you don&#8217;t account for the Judoka&#8217;s ability to do things differently outside of a pure Judo competition or training environment. Sure, most of the throwing techniques rely heavily on the Gi, but anybody with a solid base in Judo can apply these techniques with modified grips for a no-gi environment; Judoka don&#8217;t have a hard time transitioning into wrestling. Furthermore, many Judo throws can be modified to some degree to be more dangerous (dropping an opponent on their head instead of the back, for example). I&#8217;d also like to point out that, in light of you mentioning &#8220;the street&#8221;, few things are more dangerous than being forcibly thrown onto concrete.</p>
<p>Finally, the ground aspect of Judo, which is very similar to basic Brazillian Jiu Jitsu (the latter having been developed largely from the former), entails choking and joint-lock techniques. These are fight-enders. Somebody cannot continue to competently attack you after you dislocate their shoulder, snap their elbow, or especially after you choke them unconscious =).</p>
<p>While it is true that Judo is a grappling-only style, I would argue that the low cost, high availability, and full-contact training environment of Judo make it one of the best martial arts to train for the hypothetical self-defense situation.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.martialwhat.com/my-thoughts-about-judo/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have around 10 years of Judo experience myself (when I was a youngster!). I agree with a lot of what you say on the subject. It is true that many Judo techniques depend on the GI and assume a confrontation that involves grappling/wrestling either on the floor or standing - having said that, we used to practice defences against strikes at my Judo club. I think that ALL martial arts have limitations in self defense situations. Having studied kickboxing and multi-combat for the last four years, I am finding limitations in those systems also. This makes me agree stongly with your points that you should learn as many different styles/schools as possible in order to give yourself &#039;some&#039; experience in many types of confrontation. Having lots of options in an unpredictable situation like a street fight seems sensible. I think it is rediculous for any &#039;style&#039; to claim it works in any situation. Show me a style that stops bullets with bare hands and I may change my mind!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have around 10 years of Judo experience myself (when I was a youngster!). I agree with a lot of what you say on the subject. It is true that many Judo techniques depend on the GI and assume a confrontation that involves grappling/wrestling either on the floor or standing &#8211; having said that, we used to practice defences against strikes at my Judo club. I think that ALL martial arts have limitations in self defense situations. Having studied kickboxing and multi-combat for the last four years, I am finding limitations in those systems also. This makes me agree stongly with your points that you should learn as many different styles/schools as possible in order to give yourself &#8216;some&#8217; experience in many types of confrontation. Having lots of options in an unpredictable situation like a street fight seems sensible. I think it is rediculous for any &#8216;style&#8217; to claim it works in any situation. Show me a style that stops bullets with bare hands and I may change my mind!  <img src='http://www.martialwhat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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